The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. I am a bit of a traditionalist so I have 50-50 lard-beeswax that I put on cylinder after loading; cleaning is easy with hot water and Ballistol. 1883 Burgess Manual. But the website is easy to track sale prices through the year. and practise with that heavy load! SOME PATINA ON 36 Caliber; 80% blue, fair bore, good grips, 505'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1862 POCKET NAVY REVOLVER. This was sometime in the early 2000's. Contact Fingers McGee or Driftwood Johnson. I got my first 58 Remington in 1989 for Christmas ($99 from Cabelas). If you want to make a guy worth killing, this should do it. Original blued finish and plain walnut grips. And if you happen to have another pre-loaded cylinder with you, PRESTO! My personal recipe for 1858 fun is 25 grains of holy black with a .454 diameter round lead ball seated firmly atop it. View more auctions here. I shot them for five years until I got my Colts and they worked fine. You know youve got a good, airtight seal in the chamber when the mouth of the cylinder shaves a small lead ring off the edge as you seat the ball. View more auctions here. Exc condition, appears unfired. I have developed a load for this gun, I call, The Medical Examiners Special! I call it thus, because I am convinced that anyone who tried to assault me, and who I hit Fair & Square twixt Wind & Water with it, well, the only Doctor who would be able to assist the person thus shot, would be The Medical Examiner! Not to mention that shooting 58 Remington reproduction is just an absolute hoot. Told the gunsmith I did not want a race gun, I just wanted it to work. I taught my neighbors son (after he turned 18) how to shoot black powder with my 1858 and he fell in love with the revolver, so I gave him a new one for college graduation. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. Didn't happen though. View cart for details. Some of it justifiedhowever if you know the reason then it's some what understandable. Yesterday i shot my 1858 Remington 44 cap and ball that was my great grandfathers service revolver that he carried in the Civil War.He fought in Bull run the second Manassas battle and them on to Gettysburg His name was Thomas H Bourke. 10s will probably be best. I still shot it without the ejector, and got pretty good at ejecting shells with a nail on a leather thong. I've heard the stories of ASM's being of poor quality, however these two .45's are very nice. It was just the size of a small outfit, like 4-5 people there and I saw mostly lever rifles parts (might be they got their pistol from other sources). Thank God I did not shoot my dog that had to have 62 stitches. Question of the Day: Do You Worry About Unarmed Loved Ones? That's your build date. These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard I am sure it will do for deer. Despite my kill, in my opinion, its not strong enough but fun as a backup which is why I used it. The strong top-strap design, the ease of swapping cylinders and the safety notches are all reasons why so many modern cap-and-ball shooters still turn to Fordyce Beals design. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. So based upon my experience, ASM is a solid hit or a wide miss. Actually, percussion caps come in slightly different sizes, as do nipples. The rifle is the best looking gun in my collection, even better than my Henry. well, few years ago I visited a gun shop in Brescia "Palmetto" and I was looking for the double gun they were selling (Chaparral Sidebyside) . WOW , thanks for the history , I do see parts ,lighter springs even cylinders for these guns BUT not with the ASM manufacture ,parts are crossed to gun type like "1851 navy" ,would one say theres a strong chance they would work in ASM brand "1851 navy" ? Further, any muzzle loading rifle, shotgun, or pistol which is designed to use black powder or black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition, is an antique firearm unless it (1) incorporates a firearm frame or receiver; (2) is a firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon; or (3) is a muzzle loading weapon which can be readily .44 Cal percussion. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Sorry for misleading anyone. It has a central shotgun barrel (16 gauge? THE FRAME AND HAMMER RETAINS APPROX 90% OF THEIR COLORS.. 1876 Rifle Manual. Im 66 years old and I have been wanting to get a 1858black powder for a while now but because I live in Illinois I cant get no one to order me one . How about a five year old 1851 Navy, to a current 1861 Navy? An iron-sight Hawken at whatever range you can stay on a sheet of typing paper EVERY SHOT offhand is hunting. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . Rust and pitting on metal. I was told by the Chiappa folks, they changed the Armi Sport name to Chiappa because of this confusion. 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Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. Regular gun solvents cant remove the black powder salts. Loved the pics too. First, only one person had the cutoff date right; it is 1998 / 99. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. We raise cattle, same thing. Do put grease in each chamber after loading. Many, many thanks for making this information public. THE BORE HAS GOOD RIFLING. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top THE BORE IS 45 Caliber; 97% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 10'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION OF A "W.MOORE-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT CAP & BALL PISTOL IN VERY GOOD OVERALL CONDITION. 1885 Low Wall Manual. I have replacements now, but I keep it around as a back-up. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. His design has been in constant use since before the Civil War. 1873 Rifle Manual. THE BLUING SHOWS A FEW LIGHT SCRATCES AND DINGS BUT IS VERY NICE. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. Armi San Marco first started making a Colt 1873 replica in the middle 1980s. Best of all its FREE, and in abundant supply in most homes!!! WebASM Hammer (1858) Check Stock Price US$38.50 Quantity Item 2 Code 111ASM002 Description Asm Hammer (1863 Pocket) Check Stock Price US$24.20 Quantity Item 3 About 400 ft-lbs Energy. He took the gun back. That means that two Colt Peacemakers coming off the line 1 minute apart (11:59PM on Dec 31 1898 and 12:00 AM on Jan 1, 19 99, define the force of the law. 44 BP; excellent bore, good grips, 8'' barrel, Made in Italy. BORE IS VERY GOOD WITH GOOD RIFLING. Lock functions well, trigger 44 Caliber; 96% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Reenacting: CW & IW Eventually, the design inspired the 1875 Remington, a true metallic cartridge revolver, but one that clearly shows the influences from the 1858. if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. Java, from Plymouth MA. So I fire the shotgun first now, and cuss at the rammer, and have 9 chambers of wholy fun otherwise. Selleck wields a S&W Scholfield and a 1860 (I think) Colt open frame Army. Also, I would personally spend a small amount more and buy a steel frame pistol instead of a brass frame. Excellent shape with no not for sale by BuffaloHunter4 on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 972952045 You have the names confused. Perfect for display and target shooting. Brass (frame) is kinda pretty but Steel much stronger and more durable. 1885 Low Wall Manual. ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. 1873 Rifle Manual. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. BORE IS VERY GOOD WITH SHARP RIFLING. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. Customer Service. Silliness aside, I had little to no interest in black powder until I was at the range next to an older fellow firing rounds through an old muzzle loader rifle. I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. Rolling WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 I lowered my ball size from .454 to 451 (pietta) and dropped my charge from 30 to 20 grains. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. 1866 Rifle Manual. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. Got a pair of Ubertis, one stainless and one blue (Thunder and Lightning). It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. 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Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. WebRemington Rolling Block; Remington Lee; 1865 Springfield (1st Allin) 1866 Springfield (2nd Allin) 1868-70 Springfield (50/70) 1873-1889 Springfield (45/70) 1873 Winchester; 1885 Winchester; 1895 Winchester Lee Navy; Winchester Hotchkiss; Winchester Model 61; Winchester Model 62; Winchester Model 86; Winchester Model 90/06; Winchester They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. stan wayback WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. My first cowboy pistol was an ASM EMF Hartford in .357, bought new in about '95 or '96. Bought both of mine mail order from Cabelas. A quick look netted this info from a CAS City post: ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. Original blued finish, case colored frame, brass trigger guard and backstrap. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. The 1858 Remington has safety notches cut into the cylinder in between the nipples, giving the un-cocked hammer a place to rest thats not on a percussion cap. Theyll NEVER rust this way. I weighs a ton, has a 9 inch barrel and is damn accurate. FOOD, THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS AS IS THE CASE COLORED FRAME AND HAMMER. Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. In between, he was granted US Patent No. It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Also, using silicon-impregnated caliber-specific wads between powder and ball forecloses having to smear grease into the chamber mouth re: chain firing. STAINLESS FINISH SHOWS LIGHT HANDLING WEAR. I always chuckle when I clean it in the sink with soap and water. THE FRAME , HAMMER AND RAMROD ASSEMBLY RETAIN APPROX 94% OF .45 Colt; 98% blue, near mint bore, very good grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUCTION OF A REMINGTON MODEL 1875 ARMY REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT OVERALL CONDITION. The other great thing about the cap-and-ball revolvers is that they are not considered firearms, so you can buy all you want and have them shipped to your door. It is a very pretty gun with a 24 octogon barrel and a case hardened receiver. Black Powder Revolver Manual. The one thing I really like is that the entire process of loading is actually fun, whereas for my M&P45 loading a mag isnt something to get excited about. I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Thats meat harvesting and theres nothing wrong with it. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Im 75, so I move a bit slower than earlier today. None other than William Buffalo Bill Cody wrote of his old 1858 Remington, It never failed me. If you had a few briefcases full of C-notes sitting around last summer, you could have bid on Buffalo Bills 1858 Remington, along with his hand-written note extolling the virtues of Beals revolver. It was the Top Overall prize at a shoot in NM about 1993. Or even from New York? On the other hand, I also have an ASM 92 clone. Most of the pieces are in a ziploc bag saved for what purpose I don't know. My 1858 is an Uberti model previously owned by a North-South Skirmish Association member. WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. Powered by Invision Community. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. This was very helpful, Im thinking about buying one of these pistols and this gave a lot of information about the pistol and the of it. But, since he doesn't shoot "cowboy" any more it's part of my backup pair to my main Colt guns). Hes got an 1858 Remington in each hand, and looks like at least two more on his belt. Used Blued 1858 Cylinder Pins (will fit Pietta and ASM) 4 ea. I had the same problem. The patent date is 1858. New in Box-never fired. As for the black powder, read the manual, page 10 in mine. Used, shows wear and handling, small dings in the area of the cylinder pin end. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. Gauge: 44 percussion. Personally, I use wonder wads, commercially available round pieces of felt soaked in oil and wax (or you can make your own), between the ball and the powder. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. I have an Italian-made 1858 replica with an R&D conversion cylinder. ; 98% blue, excellent bore, excellent+ grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUTION OF A COLT 1872 OPEN TOP REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT+ CONDITION. Gauge: 44 percussion. If the shooter was a little rough with the gun, and dropped the hammer into the Half Cock Notch, the tip of the trigger could break off, radically altering the sight picture. So feel free to experiment. Of course, only shoot from distances from which you know you make clean, ethical kills. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Cimarron Thunderer and WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. Great article. Drones are easy to hack or shoot down. Just make sure that you compress the powder with the ball when you press it into the cylinder. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why it broke due to stress risers from the poorly finished part).
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